I've talked to a pharmacist about this product and wouldn't want to put myself through the tortured effects of this product. Sure it helps you lose weight but you may as well be taking a bottle of laxatives. The effects are the same. It absorbs fat all right but not without taking fluids along with it. Apparently you are required to take it 3 times a day and as soon as that piece of food is eaten it's off to the washroom you go. Can you imagine the embarrassment if you are at work and have to suddenly leave your customer??????? Think about it!!!!!!!!!!

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Joanne, I was THERE! Without the help of Xenecal. I had my gallbladder removed 4 years ago (thanks to dieting!) and afterwards, I couldn't eat red meat (beef OR pork) without running (and I DO mean RUNNING) to the bathroom. I had about 30 min to make it, God help me if I was eating in a restaurant and was driving home after the meal! Believe me, it is no fun, and I certainly wouldn't take anything to make it happen on purpose. Apart from the running, I don't even want to try to describe the smell!!! (Sorry if this offends.)

Duffy I know what it's all about as well. I've had mine removed as well and I know certain foods my stomach cannot tolerate. It's not fun either... Why would anyone want to intentionally put themselves through such torture with those pills???

Xenical sounds like a wonder drug:-)
I don't care if I crap out a good meal,
It's the thought of absorbing the calories and fat that makes me sick. I too got my gall bladder out three months ago, so I know what the rushing to the bathroom is like. I don't sympathize with you, If you seriously want to loose weight, well, no pain, no gain. If you don't feel like pushing it out one end, just purge it out the other.
HAVE A NICE DAY

Guess I don't want to lose weight badly enough to spend all my time in the toilet...you are right!! As a matter of fact, I don't want to lose weight AT ALL!

To Duffy and Joanne...

You both know my feelings on this subject, but I thought I'd add my vote to your postings.

I didn't need pills to gain weight and I sure as heck don't need pills to lose it.

We all know that purging is not healthy. It is by eating healthy, sensible, well balanced meals, coupled with drinking at least 8 glasses of water a day to keep things working smoothly through our digestive tract that we are able to maintain our health while reducing fat. Exercise is also important. Isn't that what Diettalk is founded on?

As for the purger here...darlin' you are entitled to your opinion...I just don't happen to share it.



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I think anyone that thinks purging their food out is wonderful, definitly needs help. That is another type of torture I'm not about to put my body through.. http://www.diettalk.com/uub//frown.gif

You can destroy your body by being overweight, you can destroy your body by being underweight. You can get cancer from the pesticides on your salads, you can get heart disease from a juicy hamburger. To purge or not to purge that is the question. By inhaling each meal, you are at risk for overweight, heart disease, cancer, diabetes, we're all doomed. So, the sooner you get the garbage out of your stomach the better. Vitamins are good, you can get your nutrients that way, but when you eat unhealthy, take the blame or take control. If you don't punish yourself one way, you are at risk for other ailments.

Im on the bulitin board with a question, under purger, if you want to go further.

Lot's of luv

I take a weight loss drug, not that I admit it to very many people. Meridia. I was thinking about Xenical . But decided I would just cut down on fat. I was close to having to have my gall bladder out. The ultrasound said I needed it, but he said during the time I was waiting for results I ate proper and you know what 3 months later there was dang near no stonnes, but that meant no sausage and pizza for me very often. gladly do that rather than surgery.

To be honnnest I dont know if there is any knownnnn problems with meridia right now though, 3 months now.

Innn regards to purging, i have intentionally done it but lets say 3X in my life. Twice because I was having stomach painn that wouldnnt go away I felt like I was goiing to throw up but didnt couldnnnt sleep froom the pain went and made myself throw up and I was better, but you know what it was always real greasy foods that did it to me and it wasnnnnnnt sitting well, I didnt want to do it otherwise I wouldnnnt have suffered with the pain for hours before doing it, the other time I was about 17 years old and realized I was fat I was 192 pounds, I went onnn a starvation diet. Within 2 months I was 145. I ate nothig but water and hard cady and one night we had pizza in the house and I had 2 pieces went in the bathroom and threw it up because I didnt wat to sabatage my efforts. Well I did by the way keep it off for a few years and I ate normal. Having kids killed it, with my help

I have on occasionnn thought about it, just last night I ate a hamburg I didnt need and thought about it,so I realized once you stop you will never stop, I did it onnce annnd years later I still think about it, I dont want to rot my teeth and be stupid about this loosing weight though, if I can eat it, I can pay the price by having to excercise more and eat less for a few days.

I do however on occaion take a bite of something fattening chew it and spit it out , I just wanted the taste, but thats another story

Alissa

About Xenical.

For the people who say that they are running to the bathroom it means you are actually taking to much fat in your diet. if you reduce the fat content you will see that these side effects will stop. In fact Xenical has no real side effect as such. The fact that you are running to the bathroom has nothing to do with Xenical it is because you are taking more than the recommended amount of fat which Xenical is trying to stop from being metabolised and therefore it is coming straight out of you. As with any drug you should follow the directions carefully. Just because you are taking Xenical does not mean you can eat anything and as much as you want. The benefit with xenical as opposed to just dieting is that you loose weight easier because it is taking out up to 30% of the fat in your diet without you having to be deprived of everything that you like. It does in fact take a while to loose weight and you do have to change your eating habbits and it actually teaches most people to eat healthily because if you don't while you are taking xenical you will end up running to the bathroom all day!

Some very obese people need extra help with loosing weight and I think that xenical is an excellent drug. It does not have the side effects of most appetite supressants.

I think that if you want to take a drug of any kind you should do your homework and listen to your GP. Another point to bear in mind is that most people do not have continued side effects with xenical and these fade out after a few weeks. Furthermore, not all people react the same way to the same drug. I do not think that it is right to discourage people who may really need it from taking it. I have lost over 80lbs with xenical and I was in a very high risk before. Now I feel great. I had been trying for six years before and I could not loose the weight and if i did it would come back. I have now kept the weight off for over 1 year.

For the purging, you people do not need a diet you need a psyciatrist. Not being smart, you really should see someone. It is actually a mental problem more than anything else.


Hope to be of help.

Good luck
Lilly

Wouldn't it just be easier to just eat correctly and exercise than to put your body through all that....?


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Well said Lilly. A friend of mine lost 40 lbs in two months using xenical. The first two weeks he wore a pad due to some sepage, and not knowing if he may be caught between his desk and the bathroom. After the two weeks his eating habits had changed (possible due to the negative reinforcement of the sepage.) He no longer uses a pad, and feels it has helped some of the health problems he had been experencing due to obesity. I lost 80 lbs from phen-fen but have gain 30 back. I too am considering xenical, and at this point would wear a pad on my forhead if I thought it would help. Keep giving the sound advice, and good luck losing weight...God Bless :)

Would anyone happen to know if you can take Xenical if you aren't over weight? I eat less than 1500 calories of healthy food a day and lose 600-1000 calories 3 to 5 times a week doing cardio but I haven't been loseing weight and am seriously considering a weight-loss drug. I was just wondering if my doctor or dietishion would allow this?

Hi there, I have a BMI of almost 34, I've been using Xenical for several weeks now.
The side effects (although negligible) were present (slight spotting). Nowhere near as bad as my Dr. warned, but present none the less.
I've consciously reduced my fat intake, and the side effects have disappeared. My LDL cholesterol has dropped and I feel great. I'd highly recommend Xenical to anyone overweight (obese) and having other significant risk factors.

Thanks for reading, mtbeercan@yahoo.com

Trista:
I would hope no doctor would give a person Xenecal who is not extremely overweight. I don't know how long you've been following your plan, but from personal experience, making a slight change (adding a different type of exercise, or adding a few more calories) could make all the difference in weight loss.
Good luck.

I spoke with my regular doctor earlier today, and she admitted to prescribing Xenical to LOTS of her obese patients. When I asked her about the side effects, she told me all about how she "wouldn't recommend it unless you were going to be close to home for a while." I asked her if SHE would take it if she were in that position, and she said No. That's enough for me! I find it hard to trust a medicine if my own DOCTOR is telling me she wouldn't do it! Know what I mean?

I recently received a prescript for Xenical. Aware of the negatives associated with taking Xenical I talked to my MD. He recommended I take it once a day in association with the major meal of the day, usually supper. This technique will limit the overall effects by not reacting with fats taken earlier in the day, but I am to use personal control by controlling my intake during these times. Gonna try it.

Does anyone know if you can take Xenical if you have had your gallbladder out?

Xenical! Sad that people have to turn to drugs such as this to help them. Know too well the feeling that I'd do "anything" to help me gain control of weight problem. Wish there was one answer to the problem but if there is I sure haven't found it. Each of us is on a journey, one we must take alone. If someone's suggestion helps, well then, great!
All we can hope to do is share some support and knowledge we gain along the way.
....focus

Hello all I have been taking Xenical for a while. It is amazing how much FAT is in the food you eat. I am not running to the bathroom. I do have oily stools but that is all the fat that my body is not absorbing. Fo all the people who are talking about how this drug makes you RUN to the bathroom. Well its all relevant to the amount of fat you eat. More fat means you will walk faster and less fat means there is no fat to pass...
Kim

I heard Xenical can cost $170 a month! I take an herbal blend that only costs $50 a month and I have no side effects. No way would I ever go back to drugs!

I am just coming to the end of my first week using Xenecal. I have not had any really bad side effects and am happy that I chose this medication.
Along with the Xenecal I am taking Phntermine. I feel like I am in control and will see how things go over the next few weeks.
I am a full time student and single mother with 2 small children ages one and two. I am STRESSED to say the least and have been stress eating.
For those of you that say simply exercise, when?
I will let you all know, for those that are like me adn want to know how successful one can be, how much I lose over the next few months.
I have as someone else said totaly overhauled my diet the last week because of the fear of making a mess. If you know what I mean.

Okay Hodgpodge tell me what's going to happen the moment you come off of these drugs...I'm sure some of the weight will come back on...Please be careful.

Thanks HodgPodg and Sean for the constructive advice. It's surprising that the ones that criticize zenical, are the ones that have never tried it. What are the doses of phenterimine and zenical do you take??? I'm currently taking phenterimine (30mg a day). I'm anxious to hear about your progress. I encourage anyone else who has tried xenical to post their results...thanks again

Knowing the possible side effects of a drug before you take it is only good sense. I believe Joanne posted the information that she received from her pharmacist as a warning to people who may be considering using Xenical, not as a criticism. Unfortunately, the diet industry feeds on desperate people willing to take desperate measures.

hello
i am not an outcast.
i am using xenical for the last 3 weeks and have NOT had any of the side effects everybody is talking about. sure , i can actually see how much fat i am not digesting and that is supposed to be like that. i have no accidents or need no diaper,lol. but i think this might work for many of us.
all the ones that are so totally against any diet drug , please lay off , if you are overweight , you know how hard it can be. and if xenical , another diet drug, yes i know, can help us , then let us be.i have lost 10 pounds so far ,more then i expected the way i eat , i still have to learn to cut back on portions.
but i feel very motivated right now , and please all you anti pill dieters , not everybody can do atkins or simmons or others. some of us need this extra push(help).instead of condemning us , wish us luck , wish us well.i need to loose about 40 more pounds and with support from my family,friends,co-workers and my doctor who gave me this last chance with xenical i know i can do it this time. i would like to hear anyones opinion about this. thank you

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Hello...I didn't mean to be critical of JoAnn, it was the other comments from people that have never tried xenical. I too welcome the comments from doctors. Hey, way to go Raven, keep up the good work,and keep us updated on your progress :)

I have been on Xenical for 6 weeks now and I am pleased with the results. I can't say that I've eaten or exercised the way I should have been, but, I've still lost 14 pounds. I started out at around 180 pounds and now weigh 166 pounds. One week ago today I weighed 169. I call that success. I never had a problem with my weight until after the birth of my son 6 years ago. My goal is to get back to 120 pounds. I'm only 5'3" so right now I'm extremely overweight. People who "cut-down" diet drugs have either never been where I am or they have all the time in the world to cut calories and go to the gym.

I would like to hear about time spans and pounds lost with Xenical.

The Little Engine That Could

Georgia in Mississippi

Please how do I register? My e-mail address is plumazul@sprint.ca Thanks

Hi Everyone 2 months ago I had 20 lbs to lose now I have 35. I am in the process of going to my Dr. to get a perscription of xenical. Congratulations to all of you who are currently on xenical & are winning at the losing game. 6 years ago I lost 60 lbs & are now putting it all back on & I'm terrified. I exercise daily & try to stick to a weight loss program to no avail & anyone who has been this route knows it sure isn't great on the self esteem.Please keep writing about your succesess or your failures as I find your stories very helpful & supportive. If anyone would like a weight loss buddy I would love to be it. Please feel free to e-mail me at plumazul@sprint.ca Thank-you & all the best to all of you. Cheers Love Brenda

I figured out how to register....doh! thanks

I have been taking zenical about 6 months. I would like very much to be able to loose weight without but nothing was working which had worked in the past. I have had none of the unwanted side effects UNLESS I eat too much fat so it has been wonderful to help me over the "because I can't have it I want it all the more syndrome". I have not lost weight as well as I had hoped but am not ready to give up on zenical yet. I have had poor eating habits for many years and truly believe the zenical is helping me overcome those bad habits. My doctor actually told me when I asked to try zenical that he has several patients who desparately need to loose weight and he could not convince them that their health is worth the cost. It has been worth it to me. Most days I take only two capsules, rather than the allowed three and I am trying to reach a point that I can take one when I have an occasional meal that I know is higher in fat than is best for me.
It is a crutch but sometimes a crutch is necessary. Keep in mind that it is best not to criticize unless you have been there!! I think the pharmacist may not have read all the facts. From all I have read the side effects are minimal when it is used correctly and this has been my experience.

Hi GooseJan, I was surprised to read that you've been on the xenical for 6 months & have not lost any weight. Is this common, do you know? Have you gained any?
I think pharmicists have to tell the public the worst side effects there are to a drug but what they don't say is that it may not necessarily happen to everyone. Do you agree?
I also just wanted to say to the woman who's own Dr. said she would never take xenical is probably not overweight & would perhaps reconsider if she was & knew what it's like to struggle with it. Cheers Brenda

Hi. I saw this infomercial last night about a weightloss pill similar to Xenical, but it was herbal. I don't know much about Xenical other then it's affects on the body, and I want to know what it's made of. Is it the same as that one that's two pills; one's a fat clumper, the other is a metobolism builder.?

Well, I've had my gall bladder removed, and I've not had the delicate problem running to the restroom. And now I'm taking xenecal twice a day; and again no problems. Does this pill work right away or does it wait to finally hit you where the sun don't shine? I don't know maybe it's just me.

Well, there are lots of interesting things being said here, but I have to say that I can't see the point to diet pills and drugs. It may work for some of you and even work without many side affects. But the one side affect that none of you have seen yet, and in my opinion is the BIGGEST side affect, is the weight you will gain back and then some when you stop taking the diet drugs. Dieting is never easy under the best of circumstances, but taking a quick fix does nothing except postpost the inevitable and that is having to learn a way to keep your weight at a healthy level ALL BY YOURSELF. I just hate how dr's and the pharmaceutical companies take advantage of people that would try anything, risk much and spend hordes of money to do something that they have the power to do all on their own. I know this is going to make some of you angry, but I just felt like I needed to say what I felt, too. You have the power to do what you need to do. All you have to do is dig deep and resource that power. There is always time to do whatever you need to do. There just has to be a sincere desire and a setting of priorities. There's always a way where there is a will....



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I have to say that I have been taking Xenical for a little over two weeks and can HONESTLY say that after the first couple of days, the side effects aren't really all that bad---FOR ME--that is. I haven't really SEEN any weight loss, but am not too concerned because I know that it must come off S-L-O-W-L-Y to stay off. One thing is FOR SURE, it makes your AWARE of what you put past your lips....that is the key anyway..Just my 2 cents.

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For the people taking the phenteramine and talking about it like it's a great thing, do you realize you can only be on that safely a total of 3 months? Anything that has a time limit on it like that can't be good for you. That's why they only allow it for a few months and not a lifetime. Taking the diet pills won't help you keep off your weight. It might help you lose, but we can all lose..... it's a matter of not gaining it back that is the issue! I'm really hoping all of you get to a point where being healthy is more important to you than just losing weight. If you ate healthy, the weight loss would follow and it'll stay off that way, too.

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Ok... I've read all the pro's and cons on Xenical. I am about 35 pounds overweight. I have been anywhere from a size 5/6 to an 11/12 and for a 5'2 person that ain't good. But at my lowest I felt my best. I tried Phen Fen and it worked great. I have gained back 10 or 12 pounds of the 34 I lost a year ago but I did it to myself. I ate and ate after they took the drug off the market. I was so upset that something finally worked so good and then it was gone. As for Xenical... I will be starting it next week. And many will disagree because of the effects. Look... we are not talking about anorexia or another dietary disease. We are talking about a temporary effect of a drug that makes you go the the bathroom more frequently. Some people can't even go once a day. They take laxitives. And if your someone who has been chunky, heavy, or really fat, all your life then you know how a few minutes of fame can totally make your realize what you could be. I would be willing to sit on the toilet all day in order to achieve my happy healthy weight goal. As for those who say diet and excersize... Any one who has ever had a "real" weight problem has been through virtually dozens (in some case way more than that) of diets to have them work and go back or to have no results at all. And if they did work it took it was based on some sort of diet. Yes... I definetly agree you should eat healthy and excersize but sometimes it just isn't enough. Diet and excersize helps you after you have achieved you appropriate weight or if your thin and you want to take off a few pounds. But for the person who is way over their correct weight it dosen't do the job. And if you truly are a large person... how much excersize can you really or do you really do. I am over weight. Not so that I can't move or excersize but enough to make me unhappy about my appearance. I want to be able to go to a pool with my children and get in a bathing suit instead of shorts and a tee. I want to go to a reception for my family and not hold my breath the entire time to keep my stomach from showing. And if a pill or a crazy diet will give me that then so be it. People that are over weight aren't looking to be a model nor get everyone's attention. They are looking for peace. Peace of mind and inner peace. To be the person they invision themselves to be. The person that they know is hidden in there... somewhere. And they will do what ever they can achieve this frame of mind...this peace, their self respect, their Happiness. So with this I say send a little more moral support and a little less judgement. I will let you know how goes it with the Xenical.

Sorry xenical users, but I have to agree with the people here who don't want to or won't do it. I've been the diet pill route for too many years and that's how I stayed small. Between that and purging, I was very thin all my life. I started when I was about 14 with the diet pills. The only times I gave my body a break was when I was pregnant and nursing my children and I guess it's good that I had four and nursed them a long time so my body could rest inbetween horrible bouts of abuse with the pills, laxitives and purging. It was really severe and I stopped all those behaviours about 8 years ago. I began to gain weight about 2 years after my body began to function normally. I ended up in the hospital twice in very serious shape, but I didn't care because I was a size 3 and weighed about 100 pounds... (I'm 5'6) I thought I looked great. I looked like death waiting to happen. Then when I started gaining weight, I tried the "other" diet stuff, Jenny craig, WW, Herbalife, liquid diets, and some other odds and ends stuff. I lost, but it always came back on and more. When I finally got to the point where I couldn't stand the way I felt more than the way I looked, I had to do some serious thinking about which was more important. I was so terribly afraid people wouldn't like me because I had so much extra weight. There were so many insecurities, but I knew I could never go back to the pills and the bulemia stuff. I'd rather be fat than dead. I'm not critizing Jenny Craig or WW either.... I don't know what JC is like today, but it was expensive pre-packaged foods back when I tried it. WW is very healthy, but expensive, too. And I didn't want to spend another dime on something to fix me. I knew that I was the only one who could do that and just like one of the ladies said.. "I got fat without pills, I can get rid of it without pills".... I decided to stop dieting and get healthy. I know there are some cases that will really need dr's care and maybe some help to get them started, but I just can't see why these doctor's dole out the med's so easily. And one of the posts asked about taking xenical even if you're NOT heavy??? I can't imagine why you would want to put anything foreign into your body like that. And the person that's talking about all the purging (the unregistered one), I think you're just trying to stir up stuff. I don't think you really feel like you are writing at all..... it's really off the mark. Being healthy feels so much better and I NEVER have to worry about side affects. And believe me, being fat doesn't have half the side effects of purging and addictive drugs like Phentermine... I don't know if xenical is addictive or not, but it's not a natural healthy thing to do. And after all the pills are gone, then what? Do you know how to be healthy? Can you continue to lose or maintain what you lost? I never could.... I don't know many who can. I don't mean to go on and on, but taking pills and purging is a topic close to my heart since it ruled my life for so long. Allisa, sounds like you are fighting going back to those behaviours. Keep fighing! Get healthy...... you'll be so glad you did!

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Ok... so I am using the Xenical but I am not getting any of the side effects at all. What does this mean? That it not working or does it take time for these so called effects to appear. I have been on it only a few days so I'm not questioning weight lose yet. But I was under the impression that the excess fat in my diet or at least a percentage of it would start to come out. When should I start seeing results either in side effects or weight lose...Hmmmmm?

Cat

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Catmansldy, I don't think anyone here is judging you or anyone else. I just think everyone has different opinions on whether to use diet pills or not. For me it's a not. As far as the side effects, from what I understand, if you don't have a lot of fat in your diet, it doesn't give you the side affects that people have been talking about. So maybe you're going to be one of the lucky ones that won't have to worry about that. As far as how fast you see weight loss, I don't really know about that. Hopefully, you'll see some results soon! Good luck to you...


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Hi. I just started taking xenecal. I dont have really bad side effects, except that I am using the bathroom more than usual, but only if I eat something "fatty." So, I'm actually trying to cut down on that. I think xenecal will be good for me, cuz I need a little boost. A few years ago, I took REDUX and was exercising and eating right and losing weight. I was feeling so good about myself. Then they took REDUX off the market cuz they found out it caused heart problems. But even without taking REDUX, I was still working out and eating right and lost 16 more pounds, until I started feeling sick. Then I started feeling very tired, and out of breath,etc. So I stopped exercising and I gained all the weight I had lost, back. I stopped exercising because I felt like I was going to have a heart attack. Needless to say, after the dr. found a heart murmur...and the 2 echocardiograms I've had, I have valvuler heart disease and an increase in size of one of the heart chambers....probably caused from REDUX.
So anyway, even tho I liked REDUX cuz it helped me change my self for the better, it might have actually messed my heart up. After finding all this out, I was even more down. Not even trying to exercise. And my cholesterol went up and I got more depressed.
Mostly from the fear that I was going to die.
But I've got a new doctor who gave me hope and put most of my fears to rest...for now. I asked her to give me a perscription for meridian, but she said it worked like REDUX and she didnt want me to take that. But she said if I was serious about losing weight, she'd let me take xenecal if I started changing on my own.
And I went on a new healthy diet plan, and exercise plan. After a month or so, of bringing my food diary and exercise plan into the doctor, she went ahead and gave me the perscription.
So I'm trying xenecal to give me another jump start here, since I can't exercise as good as I used to and from the last couple years of being sick and somewhat depressed...if xenecal can help me lose the first few pounds, then I know, that will give me the motivation I need to get healthy on my own, eventually.

Skip the pills. Skip dieting! Go for health, and that better not be my sister purging. I've tried to set a better example of that. What a load of cXXX.

I felt bad about that post yesterday. If you need to take something, and your doctor is on the job looking out for you, I have no problem with taking any pills. I have in fact taken my share of pill with potential side affects, under my doctors care, but to purge to punish yourself is bad, unhealthy and life threatening. As you could tell from the last post, my sister has had a problem. Since she was seventeen, she has been on a binge, purge, anorexia cycle. She is ruining her body. Sometimes you can just see that her whole life is totally out of control, and yet she is manic as she tries to control everything. She always pretends to be so in control, and just fine. We could maybe help somehow if she would quit pretending.

Okay, I've been reading these posts & just had to add a few comments. My doctor prescribed Xenical for me in January. Over the next four months, I lost 40 pounds. I had to change my eating & exercising habits while on the medication. After those first months, I felt I should continue on my own. Since then, I have lost an additional 32 pounds with 50 more to go.

For those of you who say you will just gain it back, yes, if I go back to my old eating habits, I will gain it back. But, I have made a lifestyle change & Xenical helped me do that. That's what it's all about. I knew the side effects & actually had the pills for two months before I got up the nerve to take them. I got rid of all the junk food and began a new routine.

My physician compared Xenical to Antibuse for an alcoholic. Would you tell and alcoholic not to take it even if it kept them from drinking? Would you tell someone suffering from depression not to take a prescription if it brought them relief? I doubt it. Well, for me, food & high fat food is an addiction.

No, Xenical is not for everyone. But don't trample on people when you don't know what they've been through.

I just started Xenical 1 1/2 weeks ago and have lost 7 pounds. I too was very nervous about the side effects and almost decided against taking it after I went and spent $100. on one month supply. But, I did take it and am very glad. The side effects aren't nearly as bad as stated and it really does make you realize how much fat you are taking in. The more fat you eat, the more oily stools. But, I've been trying to eat low-fat, walk at least 45 minutes 5 times a week and then, knowing that Xenical removes 30% of the fat I do eat, I feel I finally have a chance to lose weight and change my eating habits for the long term. My doctor said he used to be very hesitant in prescribing diet supplements, but Xenical does not alter brain waves such as appetite signals, it doesn't effect your heart or make you nervous or have palpitations, it goes directly to the colon and absorbs fat and takes it out of your body. I have a thyroid disorder and this is something I'm not nervous about taking. I really like it so far and am excited about the future possibilities it offers me. I hope to lose 60 more pounds before next summer. ;^)

Thanks guys, I had my gallbladder removed about 4 years ago also. I didn't connect the severe bathroom attacks to the surgery,wow! I feel a little relieved (no pun intended)All I can say is I have been found in very embarrassing situations and would not ever want to self induce this. Also, I have a mom with chrones disease it is a terrible illness and one that requires much of your body (bathroom constantly,plus surgeries)You know more than just going to the bathroom happens when you have these bouts.....hemmroids, intenstinal problems,malnutrietion.......please don't purge.....love yourself just a little.
Love and blessings
Faith

Hello!

I have been on xenical about 2 weeks and have lost 5 pounds. I STILL have trouble controling what I eat, and if I ate less I feel the loss would be higher. But the point is that I am loosing weight! Eating like I eat now, without xenical, I guarentee you I would have gained, not lost!

Side effects:
Yes, the first time I had flatulance it took me off guard and I had a oily accident. But, that was the only time.

I noticed right away the high discharge of oil, particularly after eating fried chicken. (Like an oil slick in toilet). But it never made me RUN to the bathroom yet. It DID make me immediately desire to eat less fatty foods though! A head trick, cause discharging oil is unussual and makes you naturally not want to do it.

In the short time I have taken it, I only have *really* oily stool if I eat something greasy, but normal stuff has little effect.

I love it! I lost 10 pounds on fastin, but my doctor took me off it cause it makes my blood pressure too high.

I post this cause someone in this thread asked everyone who is taking xenical to please post the results.

Don't be scared of it people, it's not bad, it don't make a poop your drawers baby out of you :)


Mike

Hi ya...

Ok...my two cents worth. I went to a specialist a few years ago. This Dr. was involved in the experimental stages of Xenical. I was put on a waiting list. Here's how it was explained to me before it came to Canada....

Every person is different. Xenical was specifically designed and tested for extremely obese people. This is not a miracle drug or diet pill. People have different metabolisms as well as different rates of excreting fatty foods. Ever wonder why skinny people can eat this huge plate of spaghetti and dessert? Pizza? And all the other greasy foods and not gain weight? Well...apparently they can burn their fat whereas others store it and burn more slowly.

That's where Xenical comes in. The side effects of running to the bathroom...well..that's the excretion of the fats in your body. If you have not had that side effect...well...you are obviously eating less then 30% of fat daily. Xenical can be a great drug to take to help one change their eating habits. ... Or...it can be a crutch that makes you think you can eat anything you want...the pill will do the work of getting rid of it.

I took Xenical...I lasted one week. Sorry...I can't refuse the cream in my coffee. Xenical does not like cream in your body. Yes, if you eat fish and chips....you might want to stay VERY close to the bathroom. There are ways to cheat Xenical...but then ... You may as well not take it, you're cheating yourself. Follow the instructions that come in the booklet exactly the way told...or don't waste your money.

I had the side effects full blown...I realize that it is my own fault. For extremely obese people that are willing to accept the side effects or stop eating the foods that give the side effects...it will work!

Even with Xenical..you still need to exercise...you still need to drink your water...and you still need to eat properly! Sound like a familiar diet?????? HHhhhmm...that's what I thought too!!!

Hi everyone!
I was on Zenical for 2 months about a year and a half ago and I did not have any of the terrible side effects. My doctor prescribed the drug for me hoping I would get the weight off while seeing a dietician to learn healthy eating habits. The only noticable side effect were oily stools once in a while if I ate too much fat in a meal. I lost 25 pounds in 2 months and I believe I lost the weight because I knew what the horrible side effects could be and I ate VERY healthy to avoid those effects. The DR. and pharmacist both recomended only taking the pills after a meal that contained a considerable amount of fat. If I ate cereal and fruit for breakfast it was no use to waste a pill. I was taking 1 pill a day. That really made it alot more affordable. My husband and I decided we really wanted to have another baby before we got too old! so I went off the pills and waited a long period of time to get them out of my system before getting pregnant. I would consider taking them again but I really want to try losing my weight by eating healthy and being more active.
Good luck to everyone who is on it. I cannot judge anyones choice for trying any type of weight loss plan. I know how hard it is to lose the weight.
I needed to lose 75 pounds and my doctor said she wouldnt give it to anyone who had less weight to lose than that.
Emma
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