Although I could never do it myself, there is a real honor in hunting. I see that when my husband takes the life of an animal (one deer a year) he really honors it. The meat feeds our family for a year, we use the hides for various things and many of the antlers are in our home as reminders of this regal animal that nurtured us for so long. I think that if we still had to kill for meat, or raise every single plant we needed to eat, our perceptions of food, hunting and weight would be dramatically different. Wow, have we come a LONG way from our ancestors!

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Joni I love deer we recently moved to a location where I have them in my yard and they are so sweet just last night I had two little babies in my drive when I came home. I could never kill one but I do realize it is sometimes neccessary to keep down the number for survival...and I agreee with what ya said about hunting and gathering if I had to do all that I would starve heck I HATE to go to the market and fight the animals at checkout..LMAO
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Discomama,
I have to say I agree with you. My father is an avid hunter, has been my whole life, he is also a taxidermist. So we always had deerheads, fish, bear, moose, you name it, hanging on our walls. But he would never kill an animal unless he would eat it's meat. My husband is also a hunter, not so much so as my dad, but he does enjoy getting out in the woods. This year he wasn't able to go very much, mostly because we have a baby and he works so much that he barely gets to see him, except for weekends. Not to mention the fact that I need some free time too!! Oh , well.

Bekka

discomama, Thanks for the different perspective on hunting. I feel that God provided us with animals to feed us and clothe us and yet I could never hunt. My granddad hunted and fished and it was always for food. And I know he enjoyed being way out there communing with God and nature. You put it so elegantly and it made me feel better about it. I am so soft hearted about animals and yet am not a vegetarian, so that always felt confusing. You helped a lot. thanks.....

Pamela....... you are too funny! This season there are animals at the mall, too! LOL

Take care everyone and have a great week!

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Here's to healthy and happy!

Dj

Killing a living creature and enjoying it is sick. If the deer had a gun maybe there would be some honor in that. Lets teach our children well. I try to think all animals killed by hunters were hunters in another life, now that is justice. Don't even get me started on rodeo.

Blueyezno, you must be a total vegetarian then..... I love animals, too, but know that some of them are used for food. I don't agree with hunting just for the sport of it either, though.

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Dj

As an animal rights activist I think you all should die!!! KIDDING!!! No really this is how I feel about hunting and meat eating: I am a vegetarian. I feel that if you must eat meat the best way to get it is by hunting. I think bow hunting is extremely cruel. I feel that supporting the mainstream meat industry is a shame and I know that if all you good folks saw (as I have) what goes on with the chickens, cows, pigs and others you wouldn't want to support it. Even if only for your own health. Do you know that they feed the animals their own feces? Now one point I would like to make is that animals do not need us to help them with their population problems. We are the cause of population problems. Kill all the wolves and now the deer have no predators. I do battle with myself over buying dog and cat food because I just hate to support the meat industry. However my beliefs can't change the fact that my animal friends are carnivores. There are some brands out there that use free range chickens, which I do support. I guess my main concern is not really with eating meat but how the creature that is giving up his life for us is treated. That's my two cents worth and I hope I didn't step on any toes.

I have a daughter who is a vegen so I KNOW all about the sufferage of animals...and it sure sux..but not bad enough to keep me from enjoying a steak..LOL..I am sorry that I enjoy eating meat I love animals also...
BTW Plants are also LIVING THINGS....I love my flowers and things and could not bare to think of them being cooked up and eaten..LOL..The deer here do need to be hunted to keep down the numbers and yes it is because we have moved into their territory and killed off natural predators...I KNOW ALL THOSE THINGS...and I think they are terrible...but I also just have one more thing to say...

If THE HIGHER POWERS that be had not wanted us to eat ANIMALS they would have never invented the steak house...

Sorry..heheee
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Okay.....What is wrong with the rodeo????

I am married to a cowboy who was on the rodeo circuit for years so I am interested in this topic....

fill me in....



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Jodee
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W-34/H-43

I'm sorry Blueyzno, but did you know that the reason that hunting is legal is for population control? If hunters didn't shoot them, so many of them would die anyway, probably a slower, more painful death. So, for this reason, I think it's ok. And I know that there are so many people out there who are just total animal activists, but to them I say, What about all of the human beings? There are so many diseases, homelessness, starvation and violence in the world. I think we should worry about that first!!!

Bekka

AHMEN, Bekka :)

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Jodee
198/177/STG 170/LTG 140
W-34/H-43

I think hunting has been legal since before we came along and wrecked the natural God made balance. And I guess the hunters just peg off the sickly dying deer, not the biggest, healthiest buck they can find.

Ok, everyone has their own opinions. Let's not get catty in here! I like this place too much. I think I will now keep mine to myself on matters such as this from now on.

Bekka

I do eat meat sometimes. But I'm not going out and killing it myself or teaching my children. Do you think the animals are having fun at a rodeo. They get their necks and legs broke and jecked. Horses are killed all the time. It is cruel. Your local SPCA has some movies on rodeos. Why don't cowboys ride each other? There is a lot of bad things in this world. Write the
White House. Write your newspaper! GET INVOLED. Animals can't talk, we need to talk for them. 75% of murders started out by killing animals. Teach your children well.

Wow, hot topic! The point I was trying to make is that so often we go to the store and buy our groceries off the shelf, in packages, no dirt or even leaves on them, no rotted spots, no bug chews...it is all so perfect. I think part of our overweight problem is that we are so far removed from the hunting and gathering days that we don't eat naturally...according to what is grown in that particular season, for instance.

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Joni

Don't be silly...
There are those who eat meat,
there are those who do not,
There are those who hunt,
there are those who are against it...
That is what makes the world and especially the good ol USA a great place full of diversity and intresting people we can all learn from each other...No one should be upset this is a BB for petes sake where EVERYONE has a right to post their thoughts on things...( under the watchful eye of the "man"-John)..
I got nothing but love for yall...
:)

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Zut alors, bonjour.

Bluey: Wow. That is quite the opinion! Now, I agree with you, but not as passionately as you, that the rodeo isn't in the animals' best interest. I choose free range, grain fed chickens for my health and guilt. Canada's beef market come from mostly free range cattle. Not too sure about pigs, but I don't eat 'em. I guess I should buy free range eggs if they exist... But you know what? Going to the store and buying meat is guilt-free hunting. We just pay to have our guilt of slaughter taken away. If supermarkets vanished and I had to hunt, I would be a vegetarian. I feel guilty fishing so I do not do it often (I like to fish with my husband.. but know that the fish MUST feel it). I eat the fish I catch that can be eaten.

I honestly believe that people who hunt and use the entire animal should feel no more guilty than those of us who shop in the stores for food. Heck! If you do not choose free range animals, don't care where they come from (almost 100% certainty they come from factory farms if not stated otherwise), one should feel MORE guilty about buying meat in the supermarket!

Corinna

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I do care about where animals come from that I eat. That is way I belong to the SPCA and PETA. That is way I write the President. That is why I write other country's government. The slaughter houses and rodeos are more humane
now. If you get involved things change, if you sit on your hands they don't.

P.S. I also write about seniors and childrens rights.

If I'd sit on my hands, I'd probably eat less.... that's for sure! LOL

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Here's to healthy and happy!

Dj

Hi, me again.

I also wanted to talk about my uncle, who has a cattle farm. He raises cattle for beef. When they are big enough or whatever, he sells 'em to be made into burgers and such. He also raises wild boar (which I find an oxy-moron) and chickens for eggs. I think he slaughters his boar that he eats. He hunts as well when the season is right.

I remember thinking he was a cold-hearted bastard for doing this, especially when I saw him squish mice on his farm. But they had to get rid of them. I heard him complaining about the cats on his farm and how they made themselves a home with the chickens.. Then my aunt told me how he goes out to feed them and has the vet check on them for shots, etc. They live on a farm beside a river, so there is alot of marshes, etc on the farm which makes for alot of mud. They will have flash thaws and flash freezes which will get some cattle stuck in the mud. They are frozen and it kills him to lose them that way. He almost gave it up the last time he found a calf that way.

He raises animals for slaughter. He treats them well, doesn't pump them up with any crap and truly cares for their lives when they are with him. Also, without people like him, we wouldn't have free range animals to eat. He is the person who made me feel less guilty about eating meat.

Corinna

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"Every decision you make indicates what you believe you are worth."